I think it's obvious that some of those affected by these reforms, or by fraud/abuse cutting, are going to come at DOGE with everything they got, so while I think people should review and monitor DOGE's actions, accusations should be taken with a grain of salt (and maybe a kickback).
What reforms or fraud/abuse cutting? I haven't seen any signs of either coming from DOGE. I have seen plenty of signs of DOGE creating and participating in fraud/abuse.
If they're accessing data that requires clearances, they have the required clearances. That's mandatory, and no one is going to show them anything without them.
My guess, based on the fact you use terms like "protected government data" is that you don't even know enough about this topic to make up words about it.
No, access to data does not imply clearance. And they are forcing access to data. No it is not legal, but neither Trump nor DOGE nor Musk care about legality.
> So what that data spike correlated with was data that was transferred off of an internal record-keeping device that was only used for internal case data. So this system only has the private information about union organizers. The privileged business proprietary, technologies, competitors, those kind of things are in that system only. There's no other data. There's nothing else except that.
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> This is a difficult topic for Dan to discuss, but prior to our filing the whistle-blower disclosure this week, last week, somebody went to Dan's home and taped a threatening note, a menacing note on his door with personal information.
> While he was at work, and it also contained photographs of him walking his dog taken by a drone. So…
Discussion (1035 points, 1 day ago, 555 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43691142
Deleting this then if there already is a discussion
Wait - not the same so leaving it here. This is an interview with Daniel.
I think it's obvious that some of those affected by these reforms, or by fraud/abuse cutting, are going to come at DOGE with everything they got, so while I think people should review and monitor DOGE's actions, accusations should be taken with a grain of salt (and maybe a kickback).
What reforms or fraud/abuse cutting? I haven't seen any signs of either coming from DOGE. I have seen plenty of signs of DOGE creating and participating in fraud/abuse.
Every single DOGE access to any level of protected government data is a security breach. Not snark. None of them have clearances.
what do you mean by "clearances"?
If they're accessing data that requires clearances, they have the required clearances. That's mandatory, and no one is going to show them anything without them.
My guess, based on the fact you use terms like "protected government data" is that you don't even know enough about this topic to make up words about it.
No, access to data does not imply clearance. And they are forcing access to data. No it is not legal, but neither Trump nor DOGE nor Musk care about legality.
You're making broad blanket statements that have no basis in anything other than media BS.
There is no "forcing access". It simply doesn't work that way.
If the President clears them, they are cleared. That's perfectly legal. The President is the federal government's OCA.
> So what that data spike correlated with was data that was transferred off of an internal record-keeping device that was only used for internal case data. So this system only has the private information about union organizers. The privileged business proprietary, technologies, competitors, those kind of things are in that system only. There's no other data. There's nothing else except that.
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> This is a difficult topic for Dan to discuss, but prior to our filing the whistle-blower disclosure this week, last week, somebody went to Dan's home and taped a threatening note, a menacing note on his door with personal information.
> While he was at work, and it also contained photographs of him walking his dog taken by a drone. So…
DOGE is a significant security breach.